Board of Commissioners · Regular Meeting · August 13, 2024

observed as we convene for the Durham County Commissioners and Joint City meeting it's crucial to recognize the painful truth of history that we stand on the stolen ancestral lands of the Kataba Eno okichi Shakur and Tuscarora peoples whose deep connection to this land predates our arrival we acknowledge with humility the unjust displacement and violence that occurred leading to the dispossession of indigenous peoples from their homelands this their resilience in the face of such adversity is a testament to their strength and spirit may we humbly honor the ancestors and Elders of these nations both past and present by committing ourselves to fostering understanding healing and justice for all who inhabit this land let us walk forward together with Open Hearts acknowledging the past and embracing a future Guided by compassion respect and unity um I believe we don't have a quorum yet to approve the minutes so I'm going to move us forward with our presentations starting with our

synchronizing enrollment capacity and residential development uh with Matthew Palmer from DPS we go good morning chair Alam mayor Williams good to see you members of the dur County Board of County Commissioners as well as city council um dur public schools has presented in our joint session last week on Tuesday um an overview of our efforts to collaborate and synchronize are student enrollment School capacities and the residential developments that are uh under review and under approval with the Durham City County Planning Department so today is an overview of

our shared work together between the school system the city and the county uh it was requested that I present this today as well as sort of a review um in addition with me today is Dr Todd the freeze with dur Public Schools our acting chief operations officer and our colleagues in the Durham City County Planning Department a bit of an overview of where we intend to touch on first and foremost is the relationship between enrollment and durm public schools and our facilities what influences that enrollment uh and what we are required to do by the state of North Carolina our past president and future enrollment both where we've been and where we're going in respect to uh students in durm public Public Schools best practices for growth Management in North Carolina as it relates to the relationship between cities counties and school systems and what we're trying to do here in durm and in particular I'll say it many times today work together

right at a high level as the lead planner for Duram Public Schools I also super provis Transportation School nutrition and our real estate portfolio we are working with our Board of education to anticipate who's coming over the next 10 years and we update that every single year this summer we've just released our updated 10year student enrollment forecast that is factoring in the over 200 residential developments here in Durham County that is element one of our longrange plan not only who's enrolled today but how many students will be here in the next 10 years number two our facility conditions and needs assessment we have Architects engineers and urban planners walking every square inch of Duram Public Schools right now our facilities age from brand new to 100 plus years old the disparities that exist sometimes between schools that are next to each other are

profound we have a long list of deferred maintenance needs and at the same time as those students are coming into Durham County and City we are going to need addition seats and I'll give you an overview of that today this spring as we head into 2025 we can fit together the students and where and when they're coming with our facility needs both our existing facilities and those we will need to add to our portfolio so that we have a comprehensive facility master plan where we're pulling all of this together it will reflect our priority prioritized needs for our Capital Improvement plan and that will give us a sort of North Star and benchmark on that five-year Cadence that we work particularly with Durham County on did want to overview this uh planning is knowledge to action it's not just enough to collect information we intend to use it uh for datadriven decision making at the highest level when we talk about planning for growth in public

schools D public schools has to ensure that our utilization rates are in compliance with the state mandates for class size hb90 kindergarten through third grade we refer to utilization is enrollment divided by capacity so for example at kindergarten we can fit 18 students into a room and in extreme circumstances can go three beyond that but there is a hard maximum cap at 21 folded across 2500 enrolled kindergarteners for this year you can appreciate why across over 2,000 classrooms we have to look at all of it the superintendent twice an has to sign an affidavit to ensure that we are in compliance with our utilization rates by state mandate on the top part of this fraction is our student enrollment both those students that are here and those that are on the way that is directly influenced by the number of single family homes that are approved Town Homes apartments and so

forth what we've been able to do is take 10 years of enrollment data and development data within Durham and I want to really lift up the collabor ation with our planning department where we are mapping our students and the facilities that have been approved at a residential level to understand not only the total number of students that a neighborhood May generate but particularly those that may enroll in durm public schools we've used existing Trend data to say if you're building a single family home how many students may come into Duram Public Schools as a function of that this is not guesstimation we're not overcounting for Charter or private or homeschool students this is a direct onetoone with enrolled PS students what that means is that at a say 100 unit level we have a very good idea of what is likely to occur for enrollment in the Cadence of from certificate of occupancy all the way through enrollment and Durham public schools on the bottom part of this fraction is our facility capacities these are our K through 12 capacities we have already planned for and baked in

access to prek at every school what this leaves us with this leaves us with is a very clear eyed number of 35,000 seats is our capacity keep that number in mind as we go forward annually our demographers and enrollment planners lead us through how many students are likely to come into Duram Public Schools next year that's relevant for Staffing allotments ensuring that we have space at a microgranular classroom by classroom level down to the student if you will but the bigger question and certainly the question for us as a commun Community is how many students will we be at in 10 years this is influencing our facility master plan our Capital Improvement plan any need for funding and our School boundaries and I'll talk more about what tools we have to manage the growth that is at our doorstep here's where we've been over the last few years in enrollment in durm public schools we have rebounded from covid nationally we saw approximately a

7% adjustment for the decline enrollment however in Durham we actually did quite well compared to our Urban education peers we lost about 5% of our population and are building that back um you see here if we were to account for no residential growth we would be stable in the 31 to 32,000 range right that is again looking at resident live birth how many children are born in durm on an annual basis with available county level data when we factor in the 200 plus developments that have been approved or under review that number grows to 4,800 students Beyond where we are today we've broken this out by level elementary middle and high school because the conversation does need to focus on those three tiers we've also built into Durham public schools from our boundaries perspective what we call Regions these are intentional so that we get out of worrying about any one individual School

boundary and think about Collective groups of schools as regions which is to say in the northern region how do those grouping of schools all together support students and how many students live up there you can see the total students in the First Column here by region in addition the forecasted students that are anticipated to come with additional residential growth over this next cycle it's over 2,000 students on the way you can see in total we go from 89% utilization which is about the ideal number from a planning perspective and remembering that we cannot bus a student from Parkwood to Mangum just to balance a seat so in 10 years we will be well beyond our overall District level capacities in particular in the south east you do see that that 91% that is reflective of RTP beyond that every other region will be overc capacity and

in the central region particularly our biggest concern concern Remains the Eastern region as you see ample opportunity um for continued residential growth in the near and longterm future EXC yep my apologies I I I don't want to ask a question in the middle of it but the last slide for 23 I mean 3334 had us at 4,800 could we go back up and I see 3,894 so and I see it says K5 would prek is that additional thousand that we would be missing that year are those students like in high school are so you see at the bottom where you've kind of aggregated everything is that making sense okay no so f is the 15,000 number that would be the right I'm trying to do a comparison between that and you see he had 15920 I I do see that yes that's our

capacity for our elementary schools right so I'm saying like how does that compare to the last chart with the additional 4,000 like does that make sense right like where's the additional high school do we because people move and they might move high school and you don't have to have that now I'm just curious at another okay it's coming oh okay all right I'm sorry I got ahead of myself it's a great question let me I looked at the homework last night I just but okay go ahead let me go back to this one this is showing us overall K12 enrollment it does not show prek right which is current currently um you can appreciate that so this is looking at K12 enrollment um you can see where we are today and I say today this most recent Academic Year at 14,18 with almost 16,000 seats right as we layer in those additional 2,000 students we're going to be beyond that capacity and the tougher point for us is that it's not uniformly distributed

right that loads onto certain schools and certain areas of the county yep at a middle school level similar there an additional 891 students that'll take us from 86% utilization to 97% I want a spotlight in particular you can see some of the challenges we're going to have in the east region which is Neo Middle School where we go from that sort of healthy threshold right around 90% 91% up to 120% now I'm rounding numbers it's 119 the point I'm wanting to make especially for all of our partners at the table is one that we want this to be a community conversation of awareness uh and the intentionality to be transparent with what we know as of today at a high school level um to your point it is it is even it is it is quite a bit steeper um we are needing additional seats and you can see we go

from 104% over enrolled today to 118% in 10 years so we do anticipate that these needs will need to be addressed so that we can be ready for our children that is certainly my office's charge is to be ready for what is ahead for us uh and to provide a level of service that our Durham County and City students are deserving of in North Carolina we have a series of I think it would be fair to say complications that we have to be mindful of this is in a hyperlink within the presentation Professor Lov lady and the school of government at UMC have been tracking this dilemma with concurrency between Public Schools counties and cities in North Carolina for the better part of 25 years uh there's ample case law that you can reference there white papers but this was just released uh in June of 2024 and it gives you an

appropriate level of two perspectives not just the impacts from residential development on public education but when we go to build schools as well what are the other constraints that we have it goes both ways um in North Carolina we have a case law here from 2006 around education impact fees was the Durham land Owners Association versus I believe Durham County and that established precedent that we were not authorized to collect educational impact fees for the purposes of building aition additional schools at a at a school system level um the school adequate public facility ordinance there is case law there as well we do not have any sort of mandated concurrency between the school systems capacity enrollment the city and the county um yes on the first point Thank I is red on okay sorry ours are green um for the first part where it says legal precedent prohibits DPS but not necessarily the city

right just to offer because not to interrupt Kim but the Durham landowners case was against the county so it wasn't about DPS trying to assess a school impact fee the county had adopted an ordinance and what the court said was that was beyond the County's Authority don't know that it's been addressed by the city I'll defer to miss rayberg your Counsel on that the city has not had any charges I any claims brought against it for like propers accepted on behalf of the school system so but those are voluntary they are voluntary but we've never mandated we have not mandated them okay that will be a separate conversation thank you for oh is this is on yeah um I just wonder if if the CD County attorney could just comment on the the legal basis for that

decision I'm sorry could you comment on the legal basis for that decision that that that ruled that there's no that prohibiting DPS or the county from collecting impact like what's the well to start with DPS doesn't have any taxing Authority but as to the county it goes back to this being a Dylan's rule state and what the Court said is that the county had no authority to impose such a fee um or tax because we needed legislative authority to do so and I'm sorry there was something about Chapel Hill there were there uh I remember several years ago um home builders or developers sued Chapel Hill because they because of their ordinance they have an ordinance and they this I don't know if

it was the city government or the schools had to actually reimburse Developers for the fees that they had incurred and when just for our city colleagues uh knowledge we actually received this presentation at our joint school board meeting and we actually as a board referred it to our great uh Deborah Craig Ray over there to include it in our legislative goals um to also push and have a priority for us to have legislative change and obviously you know that may or may not happen probably won't happen but it is a priority of the counties to see that shift legislatively so on on that note I understand that our the the limitation is around infrastructure and things like that but then how is infrastructure defined and so I guess that's my question because to me a school building is infrastructure right so I guess that right I know I understand we're getting into legal stuff but then like how do

you at some point we have to start just challenging what the definitions are and that's so this is a deeper dive and certainly when the county presents its um legislative agenda priorities maybe the county and the city folks should align on some things because if our delegation is getting asked by County Commissioners and City Council Members then there's and I don't think we typically do that we have a list y'all have a list we present but they're not there's no conversation I mean there might be some informal but there's no formal conversation on aligning city and county goals around uh enabling legislation so I think with this we'll be going into a long session God willing elections go our way um and and maybe that's something to think about whatever in January February whenever we do that thank you do y'all have a lobbyist so that's so we can align when y'all get a lobbyist I was just I know y'all put out of RFP but yeah we for like 5 years yeah we just had that meeting yesterday and we are hiring both the uh depending on how it goes out and

you don't have to say the name since it's no no it's fine we are hiring both a federal and state lobbyist okay so y'all are getting to and so we can um also have for our next Joint City County maybe Deborah we can have you present and then from the city Side bring a presentation of y'all's legislative priorities I'm sorry that again I saying at our next Joint City County we can have a presentation from both the city and county side's legislative priorities uh for alignment so I'll make sure that that's added to our agenda with the mayor yeah one point of elaboration uh to kind of sharpen the pencil would be that the current construction Market to build an One Singular seat in dur public schools cost $100,000 from a construction perspective that does not include instructional curricular or other materials Staffing

Etc but for the raw construction of a seat it's $100,000 with 4,800 seats anticipated in the next 10 years you can run the numbers there and see that we're talking uh a significant amount of money um on the order of you know certainly um well I'll leave it there Rel to that can do you can you get a number for operations and Personnel on addition to construction that's something that certainly uh we would want to work with Dr lefree and Dr Lewis on to bring additional information on if you're looking at the full cycle that's something we could follow up with what I'm cautious about is this is this is I'm not in a position to make an Ask as much as I am making sure that both boards are aware of the implications and uh just want to oh city manager and then just to be mindful

let's let Matthew comp complete his presentation and then come back to questions I I will wait till he's finished okay okay uh the last point we wanted to contribute just is that we have no uh precedent for capping schools that is a common technique when schools are overcrowed what it can lead to is long bus rides for our children and really disassociating that relationship between neighborhoods and schools what we are doing I I think is is warrantable and needs to be named uh we've spent the past five years preparing quite literally for this meeting uh and the collaboration between the school system the city and the county uh we adjusted boundaries for Creekside And Parkwood in 2019 as well as githens and Brogden both of Creekside and githens are in the southwest regions what we learned from that is that by isolating individual schools it was making it a very personal conversation whereas we really needed to

have a reset at a community and dis School District level with regards to how we offer access to our schools for student assignment and the vision for the academic program that led to what we've called growing together which is a comprehensive plan that brings in prek to every Durham public school which is able to afford Global language integrated daily stem monory yearround International Balor and du language immersion programs we have also continued to build schools through the pandemic Lions Farm Elementary School Northern High School Murray massenberg Elementary and we are on the doorstep of six Renovations so we have used this time productively with the tools that we have given the limitations in North Carolina we can manage boundaries and build more seats that is currently the tools that we have at our disposal and we've tried to use those well to summarize for both bodies again

our goal is that 85 to 100% range but really truly it's about 90% especially when you're talking about at a district level recognizing that we need to be thoughtful about putting students on Long bus rides that impacts learning as well but our utilization that is again my my office is charge to ensure that we're ready for students when they arrive and the enrolled students is impacted by those developments which are approved and the permanent seats we are going to need help from our Durham County Commissioners and the finance department continuing that collaboration so that we're ready for students as they arrive being mindful we have hb90 K3 class siiz laws which put hard edges on how many students can fit in a school there's no precedent for dur public schools to collect that impact fees and there again we have no standing adequate public facility ordinance as it relates to schools when I say we've been hard at work I I want to again lift up the

presence and collaboration of the city County Planning Department uh we have worked with them to really prioritize our growth management strategies we've established the five regions within Durham uh at a DPS level uh our boundaries reflect the growth that is on the way you can look at schools like Glenn and Bethesda and recognize those are on the renovation list because they are in our east region both on the 85 Corridor and on the highway 70 Corridor in addition we've been at the table for the Durham comprehensive Plan update um I shared proudly that I was wearing my engaged Durham pink shirt taking notes with everybody back in 2020 and 21 and we continue to work to have Duram Public Schools reflected in the comp plan uh and outlining best practices and procedures around coordination and transparency a few next steps and recommendations internal to DPS we're going to continue to work very hard to

support our children we firmly believe Durham Public Schools is the highest quality education in Durham and we're going to annually be updating that enrollment forecast that's reflecting our enrollment the percentage of students that stay with us and those students that are on the way in the near term that's on the enrollment side on the facility Master planning side as I mentioned we're walking every square inch of Durham Public Schools right now inventorying the conditions and the disparities uh between schools to ensure that we have a standard of educational access for every child in Durham that will inform our longrange facility master plan and our Capital Improvement plans in addition and this is especially I think mindful for the county is that we have an ongoing tension between upfitting and modernizing our his oric schools and honoring that Legacy of Education in durm while also preparing for the future some recommendations that we have talked about with the city County Partners include they again within the comp plan itself

um reviewing procedures for development as they are heading to the Planning Commission and as they are heading for approval um being mindful of the implications of choice in addition and this is for the Derm Community the awareness that enrollment is increasing and as we go forward there are going to be pressure points in certain areas of the county that we have to be ready for um aside from any sort of formal ordinances the opportunity to establish a task force that is leading with transparency that has an annualized Cadence where we are bringing forward information on the table in an accessible way so that all stakeholders are aware of where we're at and where we're needing to go um we've talked a lot about pre kindergarten and we have planned for that um we are kind of capped out at about 1500 seats and so as we have these Community conversations dur Public Schools is trying to bring people to the table and again I do want to thank director young and her team uh for

working with us over this really actually this last six years we've been trying to get to this point but we do need help and with that I'll be here for any questions thank you Mr Palmer for coming back to provide this discussion to us um we found it as a Board of Commissioners we found it so insightful at our joint school board meeting and that's why we like we really want our city colleagues to hear it as well especially uh the impacts that it's going to have on building and develing more seats for our schools um I know our we have a task force we discussed this at the Joint Schoolboard meeting that the city county and School Board is putting together to talk about housing um affordable housing the county actually voted on our appointments last night and I think the goal is to have the first meeting end of this month or early September um I had two questions um and then I want to make sure I pass it to city manager page

of I was thinking about it this didn't come up last time is there a way and I know we have a tax reevaluation coming up so it will change next year to calculate four the new developments the increased tax revenue generated per year to kind of see like counterbalance like it's that $100,000 per new seat but then how much are we generating a year to fund that $100,000 per seat um if there's a way we could work with k a tax administrator to calculate that out for these new developments and I can I see bra okay I'll take that back to k um I that' be really interesting to see there was another question but it slipped my mind so I'll go to city manager page good morning thank you for the recognition um in in looking at the presentation that you just prepared uh I had a question about your uh Capital Improvement program in general um would

have you included in your numbers or your projections the schools that are going to be built built with bond funds or funding already and my second question is are any of the renovations increasing capacity or just improving the schools as they are Miss P those are two very good questions to the first question yes we are actually in two weeks um staff is at Murray massenberg today getting ready to welcome those children um named after Paulie Murray and Dorothy massenberg right so we are ready to receive those students in two weeks and that is reflected in here um in addition the capacities that would be generated from our Renovations so we have baked that into our boundaries if you will in anticipation we're also aware of the prevailing construction market and a capital Improvement plan is just that

it's a plan and so we are with limited resources as far as how quickly those Renovations can go forward each of those Renovations started primarily from a safety consideration looking at enclosure looking at um what we might call spatial Justice ensuring that we're touching all parts of the county um and when we could we are increasing capacities so that we can sort of if you will chew gum and walk at the same time if we can modernize a school and build more seats we will the challenge is when we get to what we would call a core capacity which is that it's not merely a matter of seats it's also how large is the cafeteria how long is the car q line how many students can the overall campus operation support uh we have a legacy I think at times of putting on mobile trailers and sadly often leaving them there we have over a 100 deployed in Durham Public Schools right now the opening of Murray massenberg actually allows us to begin to bring TR children like at Hope Valley out from mobile trailers and into a brick and mortar

building uh which was our initial charge uh for the prior strategic plan from 2018 to 23 so great questions and and yes we are there thank you I'll go to council Vice chair Burns well one thank you so much for this presentation also uh nod to Sarah and her group our director for the collaboration we always like when people can play nice together my quick question um I I I trust the algorithm right so thank you for the math I like the math numbers make sense to me uh you said in the beginning that you all have followed Trends and that you all know that based on let's just say this development has 350 houses you've already adjusted set algorithm for private Charter at home and so you have a decent number for what will be Durham public school students traditional I was wondering can you tell us what that ratio is like one to 14 to 12 if that

makes any like what is that actual number that you know is is coming in D like if it's 250 single family homes you've already adjusted your algorithm to say all right 10 of these families are probably going to pick Charter 10 are going to pick private T are going do we know what that number is to say these will and not to lock you in but since y'all have an algorithm I'd be interested to know what that kind of real projected number looks like and two have we taken into account uh what we we can all have the best intentions here but have we really taken into account um this cluster that going on down at the general assembly it's it's it's it's no everybody knows when that website opened up so folks could go after these promised scholarships uh that it was cumin County that was number one with applications and it was Durham that was number two with applications and we even if we got all the money we don't have enough seats for those private schools but seeing that and seeing the level of crazy and how they rubber stamping these private schools that are on the outskirts are we projecting for that and

preparing ourselves and ourselves so that we can do what we have to do to make sure that to your words people are choosing during Public Schools as the best option here so it's a two-part question the first one is a easy math one the second one might get you in trouble and you don't have to answer it if you don't want to but thank you sir and commissioner Burns I will go back a little bit I'm not sure where the if it's possible to cycle backwards there we go um several slides to where we've been working over the last 5 years that 2020 to 24 window if you could go back I just want to speak to your question okay there we go all right wonderful um I I kind of in the interest of Time ski through how much data processing we've done uh first and foremost not only have we walked those classrooms we're inventor to know our assets and really ensuring that we have full uh if you will asset control of our

facilities both those that have been built and those that are just about to open right um that's over 2200 classrooms the second part here um and I I am answering your question but I also want to elaborate on it the the neighborhood planning units what we've been able to do is map all of the roads and infrastructure highways Etc and Durham and really study at 35 M hour that is the speed at which a 9-year-old cannot tell the adequate and appropriate distance and speed of an oncoming vehicle so we've used those as a child safety guard rail which has allowed us to then look at what if you will is organic neighborhoods within those Road speeds that is over 750 in the county right so we can say within each of those when I say we've done the the development tracking and geolocation we bring a neighborhood of 100 homes down to that neighborhood planning unit level

so we don't just have a district level average we bring it down to the block and say okay within that geometry within that area even up by let say Glenn School Road right within that area where are we looking at for a comparable for a comparable if it's an apartment complex we're looking for a on toone to say okay we're seeing about 20 students counting out of 100 units two blocks away that seems like a reasonable estimation um um to your question about tracking Charter students that's been a recent development and we can certainly get back with you on that uh We've begun to layer in not only DPS enrollment but Charter School projected enrollment because we are aware durm public schools has to account for all of those children that's right that's right yep if I me just add one thing to that question also and this may be going back to well maybe K or maybe Sarah of is there also a way to calculate like based on the average home value of a

development um of how many students per is are enrolling in DPS versus Charter versus private if there's a way to calculate that like if there is a development that the average medium cost of that home is going to be 200,000 that we have more public school students in that neighborhood potentially than a development where the average house cost is like 600 that's a way to calculate that so good CH U chair Al I think we are soaking up that what we call sensitivity analysis by having nearby comparison groups of similar housing so when we're looking at a neighborhood we are mindful of median family income home values and when we're matching we're we're trying to match at that level so that we have good comparison groups to pull from um and that is again not a districtwide that's bringing it down to our neighborhood planning units

yeah thank you um my question is I know that we're get capacity numbers but not necessarily generation rates for students um in our I think our our folks do it internally but um is that is that something that's being shared from DPS to planning staff it is yes and we continue to work on that that number we update every single year and so to get to that number we have to map every student enrolled in durm County not just public schools and that's exactly pointing to commissioner Burn's question about mapping out Charter students as well so we are doing that work on an annual basis one of the opportunities we do have is to continue to come to the table again being mindful we have at least four housing typologies between single family detached town home apartment and we can go on from there and then 750 neighborhood planning units so four times 750 you're going to you're going to be at about 3,000 different sgrs that student generation right yeah okay and

then my second question I know this is a lot for yall so not everyone here so you've gone to County now you've come here where there's also JCC PCS this is a planning issue and so there are members of both the County Commission and the city council who are JCC PC members but not JCC members that's annoying acronyms but there we are so I'm curious about potentially if youall are willing to come present there um um and then um we are going to be getting a housing needs assessment um the county the city and uh the chamber have funded um a housing needs assessment I think that work starts in September and that literally generates like how many units do you need at this at at a certain APA Ami bracket right so and that's for the community so that's going to be an important uh data set and the idea is that it's not going to just be static because we know that that can change quickly um and so we should have that information probably in the next 6 months at the at the most and that I mean it's granular it gets really into you have to build this many units at this level at this

you know uh so it gives us a sense of how underresourced we may be especially if we're thinking about permanent Supportive Housing which is an extremely expensive um uh housing option and and really does fall on government to produce um and so I think that that's another opportunity um that we have to ensure that our schools and I want to thank our school board members because I think I think last I think they got switched to Friday but they approved um their commitment to joining the Housing Initiative task force which is key and so I hope also that you will potentially be joining um that work because aligning it's not just schools it's also Workforce housing right if we know that we have a need for this many schools then that means that we need Educators in those buildings and then where are they going to live um and so I think that there's a lot of good opportunity that is uh on the horizon if I may suggest I since for JCC PC it would be the third time you know the Commissioners are receiving the

presentation that maybe even if the city council just has it a presentation at their regular council meeting um so that way your full board is able to receive the information um I'll pass it to council member Williams and thank you I the tail in of Mayor um you call me council member I call her mayor uh the tell in of uh council members ciero U comment was my question um I know we're talking about housing um how are we keeping up with the labor force and in this growth and and I'm I'm asking about that because I'm thinking about you know attainable housing for educators and the salary range I I and I think getting down to a more nuanced level this is where we can build those relationships of Developers who specialize in affordable housing or specialize in Workforce housing um are you all doing okay with keeping up with the teaching force with the or projected

wise with the amount of students that are coming I know that's not in your specific area but I might take your question into an additional Dimension which is 600 of my staff are bus drivers and cafeteria workers in our kitchens and I'm aware that we have folks that drive from Three Counties away because they love our kids um and they are Three Counties away because housing is hard to come by and it is rarely affordable so it is an omnipresent issue in our offices um I wouldn't be in a position to State the future perspectus of our teacher recruitment efforts I think certainly I do also want to be mindful this is Dr Lewis's second day um and we haven't even had a chance to meet yet so I really want to thank Dr leeze for being here as well um but I I can certainly appreciate that we're on the doorstep of a larger Community conversation on values and Durham yeah I I think that we are basting in good problems here um many

there are school districts that are losing student population um so I'm I'm really glad colleagues to see that there is population growth student population growth in our Public Schools um that's a rebound and um when it when it comes to that housing uh matter kab uh council member cabier I think with that focus group that she's that she's leading up it's going to help us um take the the this dual approach of one you know working and partnering with developers who can build specific self self deed restricted housing but also just increasing the supply to adjust to Market thank you before I go to council member R just I want to Echo and agree with you that it's great to see this increase in our Public Schools but I think a main thing from this presentation I know that our Board of Commissioners is how do we afford that increase in our Public Schools uh population I think that's needs to be a

great focus of this task force um and the conversations we have jointly amongst our city county and school leaders of just of that $100,000 per seat is significant 40 48 or 4,400 new seats 4 yeah 4,000 if if we were to play call it out of respect for Duram ballpark math for a second if we're at 31,000 students enrolled um and we have a capacity of 35,000 if we add 5,000 to the 31,000 we will be a th000 seats in deficit right which um and I want to name for the room we've just undergone a complete renovation operation operationally with regards to student assignment we are already seeing Returns on growing together and the enrollment for this year is strong and so as we look at that remembering this is Trend modeling so the numbers that I've shared with you

would be considered conservative if we are successful they may go up and that's why we have to continue um to council member Cabo's question we have to continue to update the sgrs every year uh this work is kind of in perpetuity but we do want to do it transparently and together and that 1,000 seats isn't just okay build one school and all those 1,000 will go there it's going to be a few seats here a few seats here and multiple schools needing to be built um thank you council member rist thank you chair um Mr Palmer thanks for the presentation I appreciate you bringing us into this kind of analytical discussion you've been having with the County Commissioners it's really helpful to see how you're thinking about this um and I so I just want to take us back to sort of the big picture here and I want to actually challenge you on one thing you said so you said enrollment if I got this right enrollment impacted by developments that are approved and that to me suggests cause and effect here is that we essentially

developments approved lead to school crowding and what I want to suggest instead taking this back to the big picture is that the cause is population growth and the effect could be school crowding the effect could be housing in affordability right and so I think I think we need to make sure as we're having this conversation that we're talking about the levers we have at play here right one of which is the comprehensive plan how much we approve or don't approve developments but it's also as council member cabier said the housing needs assessment right it's also our school planning work it's also our tax policy there's a bunch of levers we have here but people are moving here because we're in attractive place right we've got a dynamic economy we got a great quality of life and so we need to manage that that that growth that's going to appear to continue happening and again one lever is our comprehensive plan what we approve but there's a bigger picture here that this is an attractive place and we're going to keep growing and again we could we could we could slow down housing to address School crowding

but could increase housing in affordability right so so there's a lot of things going on in this Dynamic conversation and I just want to make sure we're keeping the big picture in mind so and I think one of them is this task force you're recommending one of many things we should be doing but again it's it's a larger conversation about how do we manage population growth right and to your just additionally it's not even just people moving in those kids grow up and if they want to stay in their Community they need housing so that's the other piece of it you know I have many of us at this table have kids I mean I I know for a fact that my kids can't afford Durham if they decide to stay so it's not even about who's who's moving in it's about the folks who are even here and that's what we're seeing in a lot of communities the the the next generation is literally not allow able to afford housing and they move away and then that what what does that also do to to your community in general I think sorry okay yeah they couldn't hear us upstairs um but I think it's also yeah I think since I've been on the board I think this conversation's been

really helpful because it goes back to what Matthew is talking about uh the adequate facilities ordinance not existing um and even though we can't maybe can't legislatively have an organ ordinance but we can work coll atively as a board I see our attorney reaching for the mic um to build something integrated within our government bodies uh to make sure that we're keeping up with the growth keeping up with the school growth but also it ties into the other services that we provide as a county and a city of water services um our Fire EMS Services all of that is going to be growing and since I've been on the board I I don't think we've received like a presentation of joint like with each development like how are we going with just access um and when are we going to reach a cliff with even just Hospital capacity uh if people are sick is there enough space for people to go and get seek care um so working

together with this task force I think we need to look into all of those aspects of how growth is imp is our growth growing at the same speed of our services commissioner Wendy Jacobs yeah um this is a really important conversation because what we have is three different bodies of government that are not really we're not coordinated around this issue and so you know you've got our school board and dur Public Schools who has to meet the needs of any student that enrolls in dur public schools and then the city is the that is approving developments that then impact the schools and then the county is paying the price T have for it so we I I want to go back to the recommendations here and remember that the this is about how do we have adequate facilities for the

new housing that's being built the people who are coming to live here the kids who are going to our schools how are we going to pay for this and what are all the tools and strategies that we have to address this and so I I would like to know um next steps I mean we hear we see Matthew's recommendation that there be a DPS County City task force with staff recommendation um um representation um so I I would like to us to leave here with a commitment about how forming a task force this is what Matthew's asking for is for people to get together and for us to look at um you know what are and you had shown on one of your slides what are some things that we can look at we this is a perfect time we're updating our Udo right now are there ordinances that we could look at that would be legally permissible in

the state um so is there is there something that we can do ordinance wise related to infrastructure and Capac um um that you know I don't know um are there ways to have incentives uh for developers to be paying more for the impact of um when they build new schools the the way that they're contributing to that $100,000 plus per student um so and I think we also need to really look at our staff reports and make sure that um that the city coun CC IL members are having all of the information they need and the larger Community to understand what is the full impact of a resoning or something like that um so it can be addressed to your point um chair Alam when we look at what is the tax revenue generated we also have to know the full cost of services and I know we

we don't necessarily have even the full cost I know that this with the city you all look at that in the in the your reports what is the tax generated but then what is the cost of trash collection the roads fire um police um garbage collection but we also need to factor in fully the cost of the county for things like EMS and for the amount of funding that we're spending for schools so I think this is a great opportunity right now with the work of the housing task force with the Udo with our new comp plan to try to get um a handle on how we are going yes we want to grow to everyone's Point um but how are we going to pay for it and we need everyone to be a part of the solution including the development community so I guess I'm asking what is our next step here related to the task force and I'm going to look to the mayor and our chair

um about that right now yeah I think that um we can uh the chair and I can speak and and then provide some direction um to to the to both bodies uh and I was just going to say I want to make sure we're having this conversation and and um with all of the factors of reality there are some things we control and some things we can't one thing we can't control is people moving to this community and I want to also make sure that in presence of this conversation that you know these zoning cases that come before the city everything I say this all the time everything is zoned for something and denying a development does not mean no one moves there what it means is we may not have as many people moving there which actually provides more you know just more um stress on the overall housing market here um so I just wanted to add that little nugget and as we're considering this to council member risk's point you know there are many

perspectives we can take here um but when it comes to affordability I I think that the the the reality of folks moving here is something we cannot control people are going to move to an attractive place and literally as we're having this conversation an article just came out North Carolina in this area spot says one of the safest and most affordable places to live in the United States when people see that um we probably just got another hundred people that want to move here just because of that article you know so that is a reality that we don't control you know and we generate money one way and that's through taxes taxes is when people move here you know so I I just want to make sure that I think the best way to do this I agree coun um commissioner um Wendy Jacobs is when we get this task force with staff involved we'll be able to look at all of those things what we do as political heads is we talk about the issue a lot and you all are going to get the work done as staff members I'm looking forward to to bringing that um

to reality um but I just wanted to put that out there we we there there is there is all when it comes to affordability that's you know when we have to make decisions on what we put in our budgets and it's going to have to be some tough decisions made moving forward there are a lot of things that are nice but then we have our needs and that's on all bodies all all three bodies so and I think I want to reenter Us in this conversation that I don't think Matthew or anyone in this space is coming to this of like development is bad and that growth is bad I think this conversation needs to be centered on growth is happening um how do we prepare and the fact of the matter is that these numbers projected for 2034 we don't want to reach the point of 2034 where we're looking back and saying why didn't we prepare for this um the point of this conversation is for all of us elected bodies to come together now and say this growth is happening we need to talk

about all of our service collectively because this is inevitable these people are coming um and we welcome them and we're excited about them joining us here in Durham but we want to make sure we're able to serve them as each individual body but working together so I just wanted to reenter us and that I'll go back to council CH I appreciate those comments and and commissioner Wendy Jacobs absolutely I think the task force makes a lot of sense um I think but I think there is also a question for us from a from a Public Finance perspective typically residential growth doesn't pay for itself right that's like Nationwide we know that right and so we're in a county with I think our and I haven't seen the latest data but our mix of residential versus commercial is different than a lot of other communities right we got the park we've got large land owners like Duke and so we've got a larger share I think of residential development as a compared to commercial than most other places and so we've got to think as we're growing and as typically residential development doesn't pay for itself all the way we got to think about what's our Public Finance model to keep financing all these Services you mentioned as we grow

I have the privilege of um having worked here in Durham for the past 5 years um I was a DPS parent and a citizen of Durham city and county and cared a whole lot about schools but my work prior to dur Public Schools was with NC State University I led a really a regional academic research Hub on this exact topic with school districts all over North Carolina and have been aend 10e standing member of the American planning association's Public School Division so this is when I say what I'm about to say I hope it it lands this is a national problem right and particularly in our sunbal states and we are the eighth largest state in the country Believe It or Not Right Professor Johnson at UNC talks a lot about how every day we have people calling Durham home what I do want to make sure and I without overstepping my desk I do the school administration board we have never discussed us getting in the middle

of the need for affordable housing and I just want to make sure that that's abundantly stated today our ask our recommendation has been to be at the table together and to be aware of the implications of choice and the opportunity in Durham that we have is unique to all5 leas in North Carolina this is one County one city and one school system if you go to Wake County it's 13 municipalities in the county to wrestle with problems like this and I just wanted to highlight we have a unique opportunity to be a true template on growing together and that is why this comprehensive plan was named as such to grow together Dr Sell and then we'll be wrapping up this discussion Matthew stole my thunder sto it but that's what I was going to say and just say you I will say this publicly you all know this but the city and county leadership teams work really really well together we meet routinely and so it's heartening to know

that you all are now committed to us tackling these issues together and with your strong collaboration it helps guide our directives and how we adopt our budgets and spend our money and so we are committed to doing that together and to making the decisions that will execute the vision that you all give us the directives for thank you Dr so I have to work with cheron I I have I have to we'll get it together we get it together would you is it really quick because we're over on this meeting soic um just quickly it used to be that the um leadership teams of schools counties and City met when mayor sh was mayor I don't know if that consistently happens anymore but it used to be the chairs and vice chairs of each governing board so mayor mayor proem and then as okay so that still happens okay thank you thank you so much Mr Palmer and then I think mayor Williams

will probably reach out to you or the clerk of the city to schedule for yall to come present for you to come present at their city council meeting for the full board thank you thank you sir I'm GNA now thank much bring us back well we would need one more council member to be able to approve the minutes I think we'll need to push them minute approvals to our next Joint City County because we don't have Quorum on the city council side get your people together mayor Williams call it that it's three and three are doesn't have four and three cuz y's Quorum is four clerk Wallace is it need to be three and three or four and three four and three yeah Quorum on each body okay um so I'll bring us to our aging well Durham presentation with director Jenkins and shalisa Howard Martinez Dr

yes to chair alom and mayor Williams uh members of County Commissioners members of council uh manager Paige manager soel attorneys rayberg and Massie Curtis Massie uh we thank you for the opportunity to present uh this information that we find we feel that you will find uh very very interesting uh we also I'd also be remiss as uh Public Health director if I did not thank you personally uh for your investment in this initiative past present and future uh without further do the star of the show is Mrs shalisa Howard Martinez she and I go way back uh we've known each other for some 10 plus years and she is truly uh uh an a public servant and also a friend of Public Health so with that being said she least to the floor is yours thank you so much um director um Jenkins and good morning

everyone thank you so much for having us here um aging well DM so I'm going to go ahead and start my name is Shel Howard Martinez and I'm the executive director of the organization and today what I'm going to share with you is just an overview of who we are very quick overview I'm also going to share some information about the a arph friendly network of states and communities that's really relevant to our conversation um today um especially now that we are here um at a joint meeting of both the city and the county and also um about the darh comprehensive aging plan and then I have a few examples of about how the comprehensive agent plan aligns with both the city's goals and also the County's Focus areas and then I also share some next steps for aging well durm so aging well durm our board of directors and also our role with the durm comprehensive aging plan so our vision is that durm is a community where all adults age well and Thrive and our mission is that we promote collaborative

efforts to build a safe affordable accessible connected and inclusive Community for aging adults and durm and when we say aging adults we use a arp's definition so that means anyone who is 50 years and um and above and we also have some Focus as well for um on adults who have disabilities um we were formed in 2022 with both the support of the city and county of durm we have an independent board of directors I'm the executive director and of course we have one program manager and we are D's backbone organization for the comprehensive aging plan and I'll share a little bit later on about what we mean as a backbone organization um this slide lists our board of directors so as you can see um there's many individuals that many of you probably are familiar with or at least their organizations uh many of them of course um directly engage and support older adults and adults who have disabilities here and also our board is this County's Home and Community Care

block grants advisory committee so the Home and Community Care black Grant of course is a pot of federal money that each County receives and it supports older adults and adults who have disabilities to remain safely in their homes and their [Music] communities as a backbone organization uh we are a part of a collective impact model um so we do not provide Direct Services um our first role as a backbone organization is we make sure that the durm comprehensive aging plan remains relevant to older adults adults who have disabilities and their families we do partly um this by providing ongoing um technical assistance and we also serve as a convenor to manage implementation of the plan and of course we actively collaborate with older adults adults who have disabilities nonprofits faith-based communities associations coalitions in darm city and county to support other activities that make our community more age-friendly more livable and more

Equitable so now I'll share a little bit about the agef friendly network of states and communities and also the age friendly framework so on February 1st 2019 both the durm county and City join the age friendly network of states and communities this is a Global Network um but in this country AARP is the convening organization and when a community joins the network it means that your elected officials or elected leadership has pledged to work with residents and also local local advoc KS to make your community more age friendly um and as part of that commitment it also includes participating in and supporting the design implementation and evaluation of an age friendly plan so here are the eight domains of um livability that are used to um develop these age friendly plans um most age friendly plans when you look at them they include um some or all of these

domains for d we have nine domains of livability that we're looking at and we're thinking about what does it mean to improve um DMS age friendliness and also livability here in this community so in addition to the ones that you see here we also have a focus on abuse neglect and exploitation and we've taken out the communication and information piece of the framework and made communication information a crosscutting issue a part of that is because it reflects the priorities and what we've heard um from older adults here in Durham which is that communication information is something that is a challenge um across all of the different domains and so we've taken it out and made a crosscutting issue and then put in abuse neglect and exploitation um so DM's first aging plan was developed in March of 2019 or actually throughout 2019 I should say um and the group that really brought together the community to develop this first aging plan was the durm

partnership for seniors so this was a long-standing coalition of individual older adults adults who have disabilities um faith-based communities um service providers Health Care Public Health city and county officials um and they brought together a steering committee and also working groups also the DM partnership for senior is one of our um parent organizations aging well DMS parent organizations um and so the working groups over 10 months they develop domain definitions goals strategies and they also identified lead agencies that would then implement this this aging plan we were supposed to begin coordinated implementation of the first aging plan in 2020 but we know we were not able to do that because of covid but some activities from that plan have been implemented perhaps the best example is the durm senior shuttle which provides um rides weekly to older adults who live in the Senior Communities mainly in the

center part of the the city um provides rides for them to go to Walmart so they can shop for food um housing items also the pharmacy and that was responding to a need of U making sure that again folks had access to the things they needed um but also also other organizations individuals who participated in the Aging plan process collaborated during um those first two years of us dealing with covid to implement other projects to support community members including a Community Health worker project and a digital um Equity um project here so around 2022 2023 these same members um that I'll say that were part of this 2019 plan several of them also began to think about how do we make sure this plan moves forward that we don't want it just to sit here just because we were not able to get together to coordinate implementation and at that point that's when conversation began about durm needing a new nonprofit to manage the um aging

plan so I was hired in 2023 I began in January 2023 and one of the first things that I did was I looked at that 2019 plan I realized first of all we were coming up on a 4-year um anniversary since that plan was developed and also I wanted to just um check in with other folks to make sure they were seeing things that I was seeing which was that a 2019 plan has a lot of great things in it but maybe it doesn't fit what we need moving forward also maybe doesn't fit um how we have been working together during covid including engaging community members um so a part of that also was thinking about this plan cycle so when you look at these age friendly plans they really use a fiveyear cycle um and the reason why it's a fiveyear cycle is because the network of age friendly States and communities the expectation is that communities are not just going to develop one plan but that you're going to be every 5 years on this continual cycle of Engagement

collaboration and implementation um years one and two is really focused on planning um and years three and five are really focused on implementation monitoring and evaluation so again thinking about our first plan was develop in 2019 I joined in 2023 so last year what we decided to do was we brought together the livability groups and we asked them to assess that 2019 plan and see if it fit what we needed moving forward we also developed a new U livability group one that is focused on older adult hunger nutrition um and after reviewing the plan the working groups basically decided that we need to develop new definitions goals strategies and Lead agencies and basically we now have a new plan um we also have a coordinating Council that developed a new mission and vision statement and they also defined additional crosscutting issues for our new plan here here are members of our coord ating council members um um these are um

co-chairs that represent the different livability groups so in addition to the members of our board we also have several other organizations represented here on the coordinating Council and here are the livability groups and also the do the the domains that you will see in this new um comprehensive aging plan so again we'll have a focus in the plan around abuse neglect and exploitation one around Civic engagement and empy employment social participation Community Support Health Services housing older adult hunger nutrition respect and inclusion Transportation outdoor spaces and buildings and also here are our cross cutting issues so some of these cross cutting issues are with are in the 2019 plan but also some we've added so for example we've added a cross cutting issue that's focused on community safety a part of that comes from um conversations and things that we've heard from older adults and adults who have disabilities we've also looked at the DAR city and county comprehensive

plan where there's also a focus around Community safety and of course CL res climate resiliency um because we know of course we have to deal with extreme weather and that when it comes to things especially around extreme heat flooding other kinds of climate um instances the older adults and adults who have disabilities are increas re risk of um poor health outcomes because of these different um climate change issues that we're dealing with we also want to make sure these crosscutting issues really reflect the complex lived experience of older adults and D um adults who have disabilities and durm we don't want to be recommending strategies and goals that don't fit what we know um the it's not relevant to our to community members here in dur um here are the participating organizations who developed the new comprehensive aging plan um and so it's not again it's not aging M Durham it's not our board it's us working in partnership with a very wide range of

other organizations here in our community and thinking about how can we approve age friendliness and livability of upd we also have um several representatives from durm County and City departments who are participating um within the livability groups um who developed the Aging plan and who are now designing implementation of the plan plan and I now just want to share a few examples of just how this plan aligns with DM City goals and also darm County Focus areas um so the first one is around um darm County's Focus areas around health and healthy inclusive communi so objective three which is expand and provide services that support residents across entire lifespan um within our plan we are going to be um implementing two goals that match or align with initiative three which is around promoting social inclusion opportunities and supporting accessible and safe public spaces for older adults

the first implementation go goal is going to be um social participation which is around expanding those opportunities for older adults to connect and then um implementation gold from the outdoor spaces and buildings domain which is around making sure that we're supporting inclusive and Equitable access to outdoor spaces and buildings and a part of that ALS Al that goal is also us really defining what do we mean by inclusive and Equitable access to outdoor spaces and building from the perspective of aging and also ability um for um the darm county Focus area for the regional leadership um the objective um around enhancing access different types of Transportation in the region and also advocating for improvements to a safe to safe and efficient movement of traffic within the Aging plan when it comes to Transportation implementation goal number three we really are focusing on designing a flexible transportation system that allows derms aging POS

3 building connections between job Seekers and quality job opportunities and expanding opportunities for individuals facing barriers to to employment that initiative within the durm comprehensive aging plan the implementation goal for civic engagement and employment is around building Community awareness of the value of older adults and adults who have disabilities and employment volunteer and Civic engagement we know that many older adults and adults who have disabilities must continue to work um sometimes as long as they can um just simply because that's just the reality and we want to make sure that people understanding what the value is that they're bringing to not only to the workforce but also to organizations Community Based or um associations as volunteers and of course to Civic

engagement and then we have one more example which is around creating a safe Community safer Community together which is a DM City goal so building trust between neighbors and Public Safety of providers and the initiative of developing a coordinated cycle of joint Community safety events within the plan we have two goals that really closely align with the with this initiative one is from the community support and Health Services domain which is around improving community support and response to ensure Public Safety for all event all older adults in the event of emergencies and crisis included in this goal or under this goal are strategies also around supporting regular convenings um not only with the city and county departments who are responsible for Community safety but also with organizations both large and small who have a concern around this topic and then the goal around um the goal for respect and inclusion domain which is really focus on darm developing and strengthening this dementia inclusive

dementia capable um CommunityWide multo sector Partnership of support and services for persons for persons living with dementia so we have um 13 implementation goals um the document that we was shared with you the goals that are highlighted the word document the PDF document those are the goals that we will be implementing over the next three years we'll be developing activities to support those goals um one um goal um activities have already started so that's the goal that's focused on strengthening the Derm Adult Protective multidisciplinary team this is one of the key responses to the um abuse neglect exploitation domain and also activities to reestablish that dementia inclusive dementia capable multi- seor volunteer partnership that will begin also um this fall and for the other groups they will they will begin getting together next week actually to start designing those activities around

implementation so between now and the end of the year um we're going to finalize the plan we need to send it to the age friendly Network at that point the clock will start for us to begin implementation even though we already have begun um some activities to support implementations implementation we also will be getting together and thinking about how we are going to work together what's our commitment to one another over these next three years what's our commitment to durm um so we'll be doing that by looking at um developing M us collaborative agreements aging will derms um board has an evaluation committee so that committee will be thinking about what are the overall outcomes that we're looking um to realize through this plan we also are going to be do some initial drafting of key indicators um and drafting activities and of course timelines next year we hope to have everything as far as our roles defined including the role for aging World DM in supporting implementation we know some of the imple

implementation activities um can be um can be done by improved um coordination collaboration communication but some of these implementation activities are going to be uh are going to need more they're going to need funding so we're going to also be developing funding plans and seeking investment um to support those implementation activities and we also hope to have our evaluation fra framework defined um next year as well and along the way agent will durm will continue to directly engage older adults and adults with disabilities um this spring we held a series of eight listening sessions with older adults and adults who have disabilities we spoke with older adults who speak Spanish um Mandarin Chinese Haitian Creole that's because in addition to English those are some of the most um most commonly spoken languages in durm we also did a lisening session older adults live in northern durm County older adults who live in the West End Community um Family caregivers

one in English and one in Spanish again because we want to make sure this plan is relevant and that it really reflects people's um priorities we will continue doing collaboration building reaching out to organizations and inviting them to join them and we will continue sharing a friendly promising practices that other communities are using um and so that's my presentation for today and I'm here to take questions and also receive your feedback thank you thank you so much Elisa and as with the other the last presentation this presentation the Commissioners received it uh at our work session but we thought it was so vital and important that our city colleagues also receive it since this is a jointly funded Venture um so I want to give way for my Council colleagues if they have questions first council member cabier thank you thank you for the presentation um real quick what are you all seeing so what I'm hearing in

housing in particular is that we're seeing an increase of um seniors uh actually facing homelessness for the first time ever as because they're not necessarily maybe they weren't homeowners and and they're renters and so that's a national Trend so curious as to what we're seeing in Durham and then how are we responding to that because I I can imagine that being um a particularly we don't want any unhoused neighbors but I can imagine somebody who is retired that that is even probably more stressful um based on um health issues and other things yeah and and that's exactly what we've been seeing I mean since 2019 we've actually had a partner who was able to P pull some data from um the hymns the housing management information system that is used for the Coordinated Care System here to that provides entry to folks to housing whenever they are experiencing homelessness or houselessness and um folks who are 50 and up actually one of the most common demographics within that

system and that's only going to continue um and so a part of the housing domain is a focus around affordable housing so we did look at the comprehensive aging plan I mean the comprehensive plan that both the city and county adopted back in the past fall we looked at those recommendations included those in in our domains we want to align with what's already happening and also join advocacy with organizations and partners community members who also are concerned about this and we also have a focus in the housing domain around Aging in place so part of that is around affordability but also supporting um older adults and adults who have disabilities so they remain safe in their homes so home modification also there's a focus on social support too um so we know that social isolation is one of the most um highest experiences for people as far as their health so we want to strengthen social support um possibly with a neighborhood community level um and so

yeah there's there's several things within the plan that that speak to this concern around housing um there's also some some language in the plan around also permanent Supportive Housing as well because we realized that's also a big a big reason for this yes chair Burns thank you much uh this one thank you for this uh presentation uh a couple of things um at the 13 goals I like that you all are working on that first one I I remember even during Co they had um the dementia support groups that were online and I've had the opportunity to sit in on them and as a caregiver like that's a heavy lift and so that the the fact that you all are coming up with Partnerships I've seen what that look like on the state level I'm super excited about seeing what that looks like uh when we were first working on the master agent plan like my first year in office one of the things I was really cognizant of I didn't want to make it about senior citizens being vulnerable

and they can't do this I mean they were very clear about it then Co hit and you saw who was being attacked the most who saw the most sweetheart scams so it is something that we have to pay attention to I was at the Derm Center for Senior Life the other day and one of the things that we talked about it was elder abuse day and just to hear some of the stories that we're hearing so if I missed it because I walk back to a call how much are we paying attention to this component postco of this is the group of people while not the most vulnerable they are a Target yeah and so since it's such a Target Rich environment um what things can we be doing outside of working not just with our sheriff's department but things that we could be putting in place to make sure that the Attorney General's office is getting all those alerts to them so that's like question one question two I could be wrong but when I saw the slide go by with Partnerships I didn't see the durm Center for Senior Life and I know that they were made a center of excellence by the Department of Health and Human

Services not too long ago so are they not in this partnership are they not in this Consortium um and there was one other question that I have but I will stop right there there um just to hear a little bit more about what are some things that we could be focusing on better again with this that group of people being very Target Rich sure and what we might not be doing sure so I'll start first with your question around the DM Center for Senior Life so sh Reigns Lewis love D was about to give a shout out toor Lewis because we know where that building was in 2019 and that sister has come in and wrecked shop that's right and got rid of some bad people and so that's right she she's our board she's a board member of um aging DM and she's actually on our executive committee as well and um as far as elder abuse neglect and exploitation we do have the durm multi um the DM multidisciplinary team right and so that is a group that meets monthly it consists of representatives from DSS um also attorneys the pace Community aging

will durm dementia inclusive Inc aging bder is also one of the coordinating partners for the multi disciplinary um team we also participate in activities so for example um for World elder abuse awareness day we teamed up with the city of durm police department we did present a presentation at the um durm Center for Senior Life up at Little River um and for this October we are planning a community event also with the durm city police department's um victim Services Unit to do a cyber security um digital literacy event at the whole um career and Recreation Center and so the focus on that is going to be first of all um bringing awareness about the different cyber security frauds that are happening and that are also targeting older adults and then the afternoon we're going to have workshops so that people can actually practice um and improve their digital literacy skills to prevent themselves from being um

vulnerable to those different um activities criminal activities yeah so quick follow I do want to make sure that we get that so that we can get that out our I think we do a decent job of that this was the quick followup I know we're on time this week There's a ground breaking some folks really want to get to but what I want to if if no one saw it on Saturday morning Dr Jim Johnson the last presenter actually referenced him he does this wonderful presentation on the Browning of America and the grining of America and even the grain of North Carolina I don't know if you all have seen it I know my some of my colleagues were there I think it is I I don't know if the number was three ,000 or 4,000 like that is how many people are turning 65 every single day and so what we have to be cognizant of in North Carolina is our new we're talking about housing the new thing is going to be senior accommodations Point Blank period there's there's no question about it the presentation is masterful for anybody who has not seen it and so while we can't answer today I would love to see some recommendations from this body on

how we can prepare oursel for that cuz much to commission like we have the data now I don't want us to be 2033 and 2034 and say how in the world did we get here when thousands of people are turning 65 every day so that was my quick followup and we can come back to me on that one later okay thank you commissioner Wendy Jacobs oh before we do that because council member Williams has to leave can we just entertain a quick motion clerk Wallace said we can vote on the minutes so I'll just entertain a quick motion to approve the minutes so move move by mayor Williams seconded by council member cabier all in favor say I I I any opposed okay minutes are approved now commissioner Wendy Jacobs yeah thank you so much shisa for the great work that you are leading and I appreciate um the historic overview that you gave because we do have some new folks who don't know the history and this work has taken about 10 years for us to get to this point and um it's

really important that the city council members know about this because we're are jointly funding this work and also to understand that this is being implemented and a very unique way for instance in Orange County their aging plan is implemented by the County government here we have a nonprofit aging well Durham who is implementing our plan I think the challenge for us is how do we make sure that aging well Durham is really connected and integrated into the work that Durham City and County government is doing and so you know related to the housing task force you know housing is one of the key domains here talked about housing um would be I would defer to um council member um cabier to make sure that we do Loop in aging well Duram whether it's on a subcommittee or whatever but obviously

we want to make sure that the needs of our aging adults are integrated into that task force um and I think we have to we're going to have to work really intentionally for instance um shalisa all of the Strategic um the the the the issues that you highlighted Transportation uh land you talked about outdoor spaces these are this is related to our planning work right um You you're talking about cyber security that's work the city and county is funding we just approved this County contributing 750,000 to the city's digital Equity work that is going to focus on seniors who are living in um house you know public housing communities or the Housing Authority communities again we we we have to we're going to have to really work and I'm looking at our my city council colleagues and all of us to

make sure that we are connecting shalisa and everybody is really working hard and making sure that that the Aging well Durham is is integrated into this work um and then my other comment is just this is amazing like for Durham to be part now of the a AARP and the global network is huge um and I I would like you shalisa to talk about what are some opportunities around funding National you know grant funding also ways that we can promote Durham is being an age friendly Community um is something we can really Market that is really special and if you could just talk a little bit about that yeah so as far as grant funding I think when I first started last year um I did not see a lot of grant funding to support age friendly initiatives I have recently seen a a few um and and in fact

I think a lot of them the few I've seen actually um would align really great with our plan I think we're just not ready yet to apply for that funding um one comes from um ARP nationally and another one was from the a Signa Foundation a board member shared with me um so I think that this is emerging as a a philanthropic philanthropic um um goal because they're seeing also how um the demographics is changing all over the country where we just are going to have more older adults um in very few decades than we actually are going to have children and youth and so I think this is just this is going to increasingly um become a topic that um philanthropy sees as something that they should be investing in so I do have hope for that and I do have hope for um next year as well these different funding plans that we're going to be developing to for implementation as far as promoting DH is an age friendly Community I think it is a wonderful idea

um there is um in other communities for example there's um gosh what's the name of the the the place where Mayberry is I forgot the name of the mount Ary yes um I apologize if if one of our colleagues sees this I thought I don't remember your name of your community but they they they they they've done something really unique where they've taken their age um aging plan and they' really connected it to um the tourism and the visitor industry because that's a major part of their economy so thinking about for example how they develop and organize and beautify their outdoor spaces it is based off of um best practices around how do you make your community more age-friendly but it's also something that is very attractive to people who would be coming into the community as visitors so I would love to talk more about that explore how can we also make sure that this plan is compreh but how are we making sure that this is

something that we could um leverage to to to promote darh as a community so I'm so glad you mentioned that cuz council member kabier and I are both on the tourism Authority and I know that I don't know how many people get a lot of mail related to tourism now as you get older because people who are retired are they are that's what they do yeah spend money and go around if you have the money yeah people and have the time um and you're absolutely right I forget what county um Mount areas but they actively promote um being age friendly to get um visitors um uh seniors to come and um that that is something so we we can work on getting you hooked in with the our tourism director to think about ways to strategize around that great idea thank you c r and then manag your P thank you thank you chair um Miss

Howard Martinez thanks so much for the presentation uh this is great stuff I love the partnership with the city and county um I also want to commend you for the collective impact model you mentioned in the beginning and I'm not a huge expert but I've worked with Collective impact models um around the country and so familiar with that model um and I love how you've set up the the the partners you've pulled together your role in that that whole you're not delivering the services NE necessarily but you're you're coordinating the whole the collective you've got goals and strategies so I love all that piece my one question is about as I understand in the collective impact model also includes like metrics to monitor of success and performance right so say more about that and how we'll know um what like what that looks like and how we'll know that we're succeeding with the Aging well plan yep so um the first one of the first steps that the Aging groups or the livability groups are going to be doing beginning next week we have two groups meeting um and they need to identify what are those indicators those measures of success because as you look at the strategies and the goals within the plan we need to make sure

that we are thinking about what's the end right and so that's where we're going to start with the implementation design is thinking about what are those measures of success and then the evaluation committee that our board um has they need to come up with the framework for how we're going to evaluate this plan because in the fifth year that's what's supposed to happen we're supposed to have an independent evaluation and so we're we're starting off with that first these pieces first before we even begin to think about what are the activities um and so yeah that's that's our plan now is to start first with what are the measures and then what's our framework and then from there the activities and roles that's great I look forward and that'll be like sort of five years then and we'll be we'll the evaluators come back we have the evaluation yet I look forward to that data but that's a great way I mean I think You' structured this in a really powerful way to both bring the Partners together but give us that data 5 years down the road to show that we're succeeding so thank you yeah thank you yeah thank you for the recognition I

uh do not have a question but as I am uh approaching the age that you just mentioned very quickly I would I would like to travel and I would like to get on your mailing list because I would like to age well where we going yeah where was you yeah absolutely absolutely I am already a member of AARP if you didn't know you can all you can be a member of AARP without actually being that age I'm getting all the coupons yeah I get all the discounts with that thank you so much uh shalisa Dr Dr director Jenkins for your presentation um and maybe this is one also I'll follow up with mayor Williams of whether the full city council uh would like to receive this presentation as well I'll have him reach out with the clerk's team okay thank you all so much that we are at the end of our agenda and we are adjourned thank you

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